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- From: thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
- Subject: alt.folklore.college Frequently Asked Questions
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- Official Usenet Alt.Folklore.College Frequently Posted Legends
-
- This is alt.folklore.college -- the newsgroup where nonsense is revered
- as an artform, and debunking has been taken to new heights. An offshoot
- of alt.folklore.urban, it discusses urban legends (ULs) about college
- life: all those great stories that a "friend of a friend" (FOAF) told
- you about how roommate suicides result in a 4.0 or exams where the teacher
- asks "Why?" and the correct answer is "Why not?"
-
- In other words, it's a great place to get a reality check on anything that
- "a friend" told you, or to compare notes about odd things.
-
- A NOTE TO NEW READERS:
-
- - We encourage you to post any stories you suspect may be an UL. Funny
- or whatever. Details matter! Please try to give as much as possible.
- BUT, be advised that many of the stories in the FAQ have been hashed
- over. If you wish to debate them, be prepared to substantiate your
- claim.
-
- The purpose of summarizing these frequently-seen legends is to provide
- a guide to veracity and their experience in this newsgroup. Most ULs
- cannot be traced back to original true incidents, but some, particularly
- the more recent ones can be. There are ULs which may, coincidentally,
- have a true manifestation, but a true manifestation does not deprive a
- UL of its legendary status. However, since many if not most ULs are
- false, where possible, I include a comment referring to a true incident,
- subject to sufficient evidence, of course.
-
- A DIGRESSION ON URBAN LEGENDS AND "FALSEHOOD"
-
- Occasionally, there is a post to the effect of: "That actually happened
- you st*p*d, f*ck*ng, b*st*rds, Jan Harold Brunvand is Polish, the FAQ
- list is wrong, the sun rises in the West and it's not an urban legend."
- As noted elsewhere in this list and by astute individuals on the net, an
- UL does not have to be false. If we take the example of "The Unsolvable
- Math Problem" (see below), we find that mathematician George Dantzig is
- the probable individual involved. So is this story no longer an UL?
- Jan Harold Brunvand addresses this issue thusly:
-
- "Despite finding its [The Unsolvable Math Problem] apparent
- origin, I continue to accept anonymous versions as legendary.
- Here's why."
-
- "An oral story is a story, whatever its origin. As long as a
- story continues to circulate in different variations, partly
- by word of mouth, we may regard it as folklore. But probably
- 'The Unsolvable Math Problem' legend should no longer be
- discussed as strictly 'apocryphal,' since we now seem to have
- found its source, and the deviations from the original incident
- are easily recognized and are not excessive."
-
- - JHB,_The Choking Doberman_, p. 282
-
- Veracity is interesting but far from the only thing when it comes to
- the study of urban legends.
-
- MEANWHILE, BACK TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAM . . .
-
- I have also begun to collect references to specific volumes of JHB's to
- document various classic ULs. This is a slow and on-going process.
- Acronyms for Jan Harold Brunvand's books in the list below are:
-
- TVH - _The Vanishing Hitchhiker_
- TMP - _The Mexican Pet_
- TCD - _The Choking Doberman_
- CBA - _Curses! Broiled Again_
- TBT - _The Baby Train_ (forthcoming, March 1993)
-
- Key to one liners below:
- T = 100% scientific truth
- Tb = believed true, but not conclusively proven
- F = 100% falsehood
- Ft = A legend, mostly untrue, but with a true occurence or known origin.
- Fb = believed false, but not conclusively proven
- U = unanswered and may be unanswerable
- P = Maybe it didn't happen, but it's scientifically possible
- (used extremely sparingly, where the opposite is expected,
- as it could apply to just about every legend)
-
- Please note that as the alt.folklore.college FAQ diverges from the
- alt.folklore.urban FAQ, different FAQs may reach different conclusions.
- ================================================================================
-
- Categories are:
-
- - Absent-Minded Professors
- - Death and Taxes
- - Pranks
- - This is Just a Test
- - Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll
- - Architectural Nightmares
-
- Suggestions for wittier subsection names are appreciated; these are fairly
- lame.
-
- ================================================================================
-
- ABSENT-MINDED PROFESSORS
-
- T. Prof lists famous unsolved problems;student thought it was homework- solved!
- (Student was George Dantzig.) ["The Unsolvable Math Problem" in CBA.]
- T. No such luck with Fermat's Last Theorem.
- Fb.Professor jostled; misses watch; grabs back from jostler; later finds at home
- [Variation of "The Jogger's Billfold" in TCD] [Possible source: Jack Lemmon
- in "The Prisoner of Second Avenue"]
-
- DEATH AND TAXES
-
- F. College roommate commits suicide, gets you an automatic "A" for courses.
- ["The Suicide Rule" in CBA.]
- Tb.Many colleges do provide leniency on exams, or allow refunds for roommates,
- but it's usually on a case-by-case basis.
- T. Student gets tuition $ by asking for $0.01 from each person via newspaper.
- [Columnist Bob Greene helped along this Michigan student.]
- T. Students find rolled-up carpet; take and unroll in dorm room to find body.
- [Happened at Columbia; see 1/30/84 NY Times.]
- T. Student dies after getting stuck in Cornell fraternity chimney, 1992-93.
- Fb.Student kills self during exam by putting 2 pencils in nose and hitting desk.
- F. Girl is alone at home/dorm with dog; sleeps; hears noise and a dripping
- sound; is frightened but reaches to dog and feels a lick; goes back to
- sleep. In morning, finds dog hanged in shower and note under bed which
- says "humans can lick too." ["The Licked Hand" in TCD]
- F. Two co-eds alone in dorm; one goes to study; other in room; roomie hears
- heavy dragging sounds; blocks door; hears scratches; waits til morning;
- opens door to find other co-ed with ax in head who was scratching for help.
- ["The Roommate's Death" in TVH and TMP] [Variation: note left behind
- "aren't you glad you didn't open the door?"]
- Tb.Dave Barry's friend stabbed himself in the head during a calculus exam with
- a pencil.
-
- PRANKS
-
- T. People's lawn gnomes/elves stolen; owners were sent letter/pics from exotic
- locations with the ornament. ["Roaming Gnomes" in CBA]
- Fb.Students buy a barber pole and drive the town. Stopped continually by police.
- F. Radio station welds antenna to railroad tracks, peeves the FCC by
- broadcasting nationwide. [Told about MIT and Swarthmore.]
- T. Caltech students disrupt Rose Bowl in sundry ways.
- T. MITfolk do the same to Harvard-Yale game.
- Tb.Rutgers grad student puts both Caltech and MIT to shame by bombing World
- Trade Center.
- T. Berkeley student suspended for going to classes naked.
- Fb.Kibo regularly reads alt.folklore.college. Spot doesn't--he's just a dog.
- F. Mikey (Life cereal) exploded from eating Pop Rocks with soda (You wish!)
- ["The Death of Little Mikey" in TCD]
- F. Student is regularly nocturnally chloroformed by roommate, for sodomy.
- Tb.This may have actually happened in the Dutch army. Those officers!
- Tb.Students fake such activity as good prank on passed-out drunk roommate.
- T. Students use variety of methods to make foolproof fake ID's.
- T. Students will admit to any number of felonies when posting to Usenet.
- F. Students play construction workers and police off of each other, each
- thinking the other are pranksters.
- Fb.Schoolkid beheaded by road sign, due to sticking his head out the bus window.
- T. New York car thief stole lab delivery of cadaver heads...
- Fb.Med student discovers cadaver is relative/friend.
- Fb.Med students play joke on tollbooth operator involving cadaver.
- T. Syracuse student steals skull from university archives, roommate reports it.
- Tb.Cow-tipping (pushing over a sleeping cow) has happened.
- T. Jason Hansen claims to have seen cow-tipping done.
- T. Cows sleep lying down.
- Tb.Cow-tipping is usually just a bunch of hooey to beguile city kids.
- U. The proper amount to tip a cow is 15%, 20% for especially good service.
- U. Cows fall in the other direction when tipped in the Southern Hemisphere
- due to the coriolis effect.
-
- THIS IS JUST A TEST
-
- Fb.Student cheats on exam, asks "do you know who I am?",jams paper in exam pile!
- ["Bluebook Legends" in TMP]
- Fb.Prof. gives "announced" quiz to surprised class after putting ad in paper.
- Fb.Prof. allows students to "bring in what they can carry for exam"; student
- carrys in a grad student (variation on allowing use of "Feynman").
- Fb.Prof. nails exam thief by cutting bottom 0.5" of exam to find longer answer.
- Fb.Philosophy prof.'s 1 word exam: "Why?" "A" to student who replies "Why not?"
- [Many, many variations, including "What is courage""This", & "What chair?"].
- T. Wise-ass teachers imitate the urban legend and have one-word exams.
- T. Same kind of teacher gives exam with patently bogus directions with last
- instruction being "Ignore all other directions."
- Fb.Low grading prof. grades same exam in successive semesters; gives higher
- grade each time. 4th time around (or so), writes: "Like it more each time".
- Fb.Student submits 20 yr old paper for class; prof. gives "A"; says he always
- liked it but he only got a "B" when he wrote it. [The above 6 Fb's are in
- "College Con Artists and How They Operate" in CBA]
- T. Professors make you erase programmable calculator memory for exams.
- Fb.Professor uses staircase method to grade exams.
- Fb.Squid dissections invariably involve the dissector getting squirted with
- ink by the dissectee.
-
- SEX, DRUGS, & ROCK & ROLL
-
- F. One night stand, partner leaves early, other partner finds msg "Welcome to
- the world of AIDS". ["AIDS Mary" in CBA]
- F. Frat holds blood drive. Some grossly high % of frat donors are HIV positive.
- F. All fraternity members are rapists.
- T. Towson State study finds fraternities have the highest rape rates on campus.
- T. Athletes are second.
- Tb.It's generally not a good idea to provoke Ted into talking about frats.
- Tb.Geraldo Rivera went to University of Arizona as "Jerry Rivers."
- Fb.Abbie Hoffman was the first Sandwich Man at Brandeis; really used it as
- cover to sell drugs.
- Tb.The Sixties would be a dramatically different decade if not for Jerry Cohen.
- T. There seems to be quite a few university buildings named after Kresge.
- T. It's fairly common to be dissatisfied with one's campus newspaper and SGA.
- Fb.Co-ed loses tampon inside prior to blind date; worried; sees school intern;
- is acutely embarrassed. Her date shows up; it's the intern!
- Fb.Young man buys condom from pharmacist; he's embarrassed so boasts of date.
- He picks her up, pharmacist/dad answers the door! ["The Blind Date" in TMP]
- U. A plain-Jane coed invited to special night out by a BMOC. As she gets ready,
- has bad gas from lunch. Date arrives; so plans to fart in car before he gets
- in. She farts and quickly rows down window. Date gets in, says, "I'd like you
- to meet Tom and Mary in the backseat." ["The Fart in the Dark" in TVH.]
- U. Dara reads the FAQ from beginning to end.
- T. Common UL mills include Dear Abby, Ann Landers, and Paul Harvey.
- T. Cecil Adams singles out Chicago and Brandeis students for their lack of
- sex lives.
- Tb.Agents of Cecil Adams have an account at Northwestern U.
- T. Nearly every college has statues that do something strange if a virgin
- graduates/walks by.
- Tb.Nearly every college thinks that they're on a Playboy top ten best/worst
- campuses for parties.
-
- ARCHITECTURAL NIGHTMARES
-
- Tb.Number one cause of student deaths at UMass-Amherst is elevator accidents.
- F. Building is built backwards. Public criticizes; Architect commits suicide.
- Tb.There have been buildings built backwards. [Mertz Dorm. @ Swarthmore?]
- F. Various university libraries sink; books heavier than architect thought!
- F. Same as above, but pool not library, weight of water, not books.
- Tb.Above happened to Kodak; they use it to develop *big* pictures.
- Ft.Lots of bldgs (malls, etc.) are sinking into the ground as we post!
- [See "Back to the Drawing Board--Some Architectural Legends" in CBA]
- F. Architect student fails final project, becomes rich, donates $ to school
- on condition they use his final project as a blueprint.
- T. Some universities, cities are riddled with semi-secret utility tunnels.
- Fb.University of Chicago and Columbia have radioactive libraries.
- Fb.Campus library named after fabulously rich inventor of mundanity.
- [Variations: Q-Tips, zippers, etc.]
-
- SOME REFERENCES:
-
- Cecil Adams (_The Straight Dope_, 1984, ISBN 0-345-33315-2 and_More of the
- Straight Dope_, 1988, ISBN 0-345-35145-2 both published by Ballantine
- Books). Author of "The Straight Dope" Q&A column of _The Chicago
- Reader_ and is syndicated in many alternative newspapers. Cecil is "a
- National Treasure" who "tells people what they actually want and need
- to know instead of useless rubbish." Worth reading if only for for his
- writing style. His readership, the Teeming Millions, is fanatically
- loyal.
-
- Jan Harold Brunvand (_The Vanishing Hitchhiker_, 1981, ISBN 0-393-95169-3;
- _The Choking Doberman_, 1984, ISBN 0-393-30321-7; _The Mexican Pet_, 1986,
- ISBN 0-393-30542-2; _Curses! Broiled Again_, 1989, ISBN 0-393-30711-5,
- _The Study of American Folklore_, 3rd Ed., 1978, all published by W.W.
- Norton). New one due out in March 1993 called _The Baby Train_. JHB is
- one of the leading folklorists today and has done much to popularize the
- study of ULs. Also has a great back hand and skies a great "figure 11."
-
- Bruce Tindall and Mark Watson (_Did Mohawks Wear Mohawks?_ _And Other
- Wonders, Plunders, and Blunders_, Quill - William and Morrow, 1991.
- ISBN 0-688-09859-2.) S'all right, and only one wrong entry so far.
- But don't believe what they say about dalmatians, humans, and urea.
- You can even e-mail Bruce on the net to blast him.
-
- Peter van der Linden (_The Official Handbook of Practical Jokes_ Signet,
- ISBN 0-451-15873-3, 1989 and _The Second Official Handbook of Practical
- Jokes_, 1991, Signet, ISBN 0-451-16924-7). Do you want to get the scoop
- on practical jokes that actually have some real world validity rather
- than those by prepubescent college kids on bad banana peels? Try
- checking these two bricks^H^H^H^H^H^H books out. You'll find ULs,
- delightfully bad illustrations, and even practical jokes.
-
- It's only a coincidence that all of the above-mentioned authors have
- links to the Internet at one time or another.
-
- ===============================================================================
-
- An urban legend:
- * appears mysteriously and spreads spontaneously in varying forms
- * contains elements of humor or horror (the horror often "punishes"
- someone who flouts society's conventions).
- * makes good storytelling.
- * does NOT have to be false, although most are. ULs often have a basis
- in fact, but it's their life after-the-fact (particularly in reference
- to the second and third points) that gives them particular interest.
-
- If you enjoy alt.folklore.college, you'll just love alt.folklore.urban.
-
- ===============================================================================
- Unbounded thanks to: Jane Beckman, Steven Bellovin, Conrad Black, Mark Brader,
- Jack Campin, Raymond Chen, Joe Chew, Patrick S Clark, Cathi A.Cook, Cindy
- Davies, Jeff Davis, Scott Deerwester, Larry Doering, all the Terry's: Carroll,
- Chan, Monks, Wood, et al., David Esan, Ted Frank, Greg Franklin, Alan Frisbie,
- Kim Greer, Tom Greer, Dave Gross, Phil Gustafson, Jason R. Heimbaugh, David A.
- Honigs, David B. Horvath, Wendy Foran Howard, Mark Israel, Richard Joltes, Jim
- Jones, the late Cyndi Kandolf and her son Donald, Phil Kernick, Susan Mudgett,
- Bill Nelson, Tom Neff, Bob O'Brien, Christophe Pettus, Brian Scearce, Sean
- Smith, Randal Schwartz, Ken Shirriff, snopes, Haakon Styri, Bruce Tindall,
- Dwight Tovey, Peter van der Linden, Greg Widdicombe, and Dan Wright.
-
- alt.folklore.college additions contributed by Raymond Chen, Christopher Dunlea,
- Ted Frank, Ryan Franklin, Phil Gustafson, Jason Hanson, Brian Leibowitz,
- Michael Reel, Sendhil Revuluri, Kivi Shapiro, and Samuel Weiler.
-
- OTHERS?
-
- Have you ever wondered how those people have gotten the name at the end
- of the FAQ list? They are people who are widely recognized as thoughtful
- posters of reliable information. They have consistently added value to
- various debates by sharing their point of view, and often researching
- difficult questions which arise on the net, and posting authoritative facts
- citing sources.
-
- The official way for joining the list of distinguished AFC-ers is to
- take one of these unanswered questions that come now and then, research
- it and reach a definitive conclusion (or demonstrate that one cannot be
- found). Post your findings. If the report is sound, and the original
- question was non-trivial, you will be added to the acknowledgements section
- of the FAQ list! Be prepared to submit references. We are mostly adults
- here (except around the beginning of the academic year). Be prepared to
- discuss and debate your research and conclusions here. The unofficial way
- to get on the list is to give me a big payoff (and it better be more than
- two-fifty).
-
- Original FAQ list for alt.folklore.urban by Peter van der Linden, Feb., 1991.
- Maintained by Terry Chan for a.f.u. since July 1991.
- Mildly tinkered with in a few trivial ways, PvdL, December 9, 1991
- Masterfully improved formatting courtesy of Tom Neff, December 16, 1991.
- Modified and eviscerated for alt.folklore.college by Ted Frank, March 1, 1993.
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